Quote from: Manuster on February 26, 2018, 17:16:38

Quote from: NinjaMirage on February 25, 2018, 14:07:24

But apparently not when it comes to chakra and stamina development!! I’m actually angry at myself for believing in this game!

What makes you say that?

This is a copy from the game discription on the forum home page!!

Our goal is to create a world without limitations or restrictions. A world that allows you, as a player, to live the daily life of a shinobi - one created and deeply customized by you. A shinobi forged into a reflection of yourself as you live your life in the Shinobi Life Online world. An open world so immersive that you experience it as living another life instead of playing a game.

Every feature of Shinobi Life Online aims to create and simulate a realistic virtual shinobi world. Villages, economies, political systems, war mechanics, survival mechanics and advanced jutsu mechanics are some of the basic requirements of this. Even virtual recreation (e.g. a bathing house), a housing system and a marriage system will be incorporated in order to make the Shinobi Life Online experience feel more life-like. In order to visually accompany the experience we will be using the latest of rendering techniques to bring you the best possible 3D graphics, coupled with extensive graphical settings for those that have weaker systems.

However instead of a real and accurate chakra and stamina system we get this comment from vreg!!

Quote from: Vreg on July 06, 2016, 14:38:42

Thank you for the insights @cmsurfer, appreciate the effort

I've been thinking about what system we should go with for energy and I'm not sure whether following Naruto is the right path here. Separating physical and spiritual energies seems like a good idea but then chakra becomes kind of redundant, nothing but a formality basically. If a jutsu requires 200 chakra what it really requires is 100 spiritual and 100 physical energy. So I was thinking maybe it's a better idea to scrap spiritual and physical energies altogether and simply talk about stamina and chakra as completely separate entities.

Essentially ninjutsu would require mostly chakra, but it would also require some stamina, in contrast taijutsu would require mostly stamina but a form of enhanced taijutsu could require some chakra as well. Things like Genjutsu could be completely exempt from stamina and only require chakra.

This is a more clear system with less confusion and I have a feeling that the Naruto system would unnecessarily overcomplicate things.

What do you guys think, what I just suggested or would you prefer the actual Naruto system?

This shows a complete lack of understanding of not just what chakra and stamina are but how there used?
And is so basic and generic that it will  completely fail to live up to the realistic vertical life of a ninja we were promised!! This post may get me banned but I almost don’t care anymore!!

I agree with you on how chakra should work, it isn't complicated to understand because all the information is there for understanding.

"Chakra is created when two other forms of energy, known collectively as one's "stamina", are moulded together."

"At any given time, a ninja will have a "maximum" amount of chakra that they can form and use before it runs out and they need to rest to replenish it. With practice this maximum can be increased, but to a certain extent as they are limited to the quantity and strength of chakra that their genetics grants them."

Katon!

Vreg said that there will be a new map in the update but it's not a village. But the problem is, when is the update?

"Look at kakashi!! He has the sharingon that allowed him to analyze and copy the jutsu of others but he still needs the chakra control and skills to change the chakra nature and form!! He was able to copy the waterdragon jutsu with equal strength to the one zabuza used!! Even though it was not his jutsu and had never practiced it!! "

He mentioned the sharingan.

"Are you complaining that I'm making it too flexible?

Not only is that a matter of perspective. It would also be utterly impossible for someone to only learn 1 jutsu to fit all their combat needs. And if somebody wanted to, then isn't that their loss and your benefit? Isn't that their choice?"

It can be flexible but every jutsu has a limit just like in Naruto. I gave you an idea of how it can work.
I said something like the fireball should have a limit to size and length but the user should be in control, Let's say you want a bigger fire ball than normal but it has a set size, you should be able to charge it and press once to release when ready. It will make you focus on the using the jutsu more in combat than just spamming it. The basic of the jutsu will be good but if you want to add a little fuck you to it, then make it a little bigger but if you really want to say fuck you, then you got a jutsu for that haha.

An example of a jutsu having it's limit is the chidori, it's short range. You know how Sasuke made it a long range? He made multiple new jutsus based on it for different scenarios, like the, "Chidori Senbon" for long wide range attacks and "Chidori Sharp Spear" for long range accurate attacks.

"You do realise how stupidly OP that is? You can use ANY jutsu at a master level
 at your first go because you have master level chakra control?

How is that NOT a grind based game?!?!?!"

Sharingan is not the best example for this because it's hard to understand it's functions but another example you can use is when Boruto learned the hand seals for a wind jutsu he saw Mitsuki using, Boruto didn't get it right until he kept practicing, which is even realistic in the Narutoverse.

But as I have never said you have to practice a jutsu to master it, I agree with that part, I just don't agree with changing the jutsu to what you want when you feel like. A new set jutsu for that should be made that is balanced for SLO.

physical energy and spiritual energy= Chakra, To use Chakra for anything be it, walking on water, tree climbing, genjutsu, ninjutsu, medical ninjutsu, etc, you need "Chakra control", it's part of the foundation.

After Basic Chakra control is more advanced stuff like "Shape Transformation" for jutsus like the "Rasengan" (which requires high chakra control), then add that with, "Nature Transformation" which gives your chakra the element you have a affinity for, be it, water, fire, earth, lightning, wind or even a KG.

So these sound be the basics of skills before you can perform jutsus or techniques. It's all for the realism, if it's logical it should be added.

Yes NinjaMirage, it's about the skill of the person, not the jutsu.

Not to break your heart like me and others have been broken but the game is just "inspired" Naruto, so everything in Naruto won't be in SLO. So no "Rinnengan", and the history of the game won't be the same as Naruto's history. But you are free to name your clan and organization what ever you want.