Shinobi Life Online
Shinobi Life Online Category => Shinobi Life Online Suggestions => Topic started by: Whatasnipe on June 22, 2016, 07:28:48
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So right now, if you look at how clans work on SLO and in the Naruto universe there's a bit of discrepancy.
Let me run through some examples of just what I'm talking about.
The Nara Clan: Known for their secret shadow manipulation techniques
Inuzuka Clan: Known for their Man/Beast Jutsu
Hozuki Clan: Known for their Unique Water Style Jutsu
Iburi Clan: Known for their ability to take on the form of smoke
Clans on SLO however, currently can only share physical traits and perhaps a main chakra nature.
Now you can discover and pass along a jutsu through the lines of the clan and have a sort of makeshift hidden clan jutsu, however nothing prevents someone from a different clan or village to discover the technique the same way the original founder did, and also pass that down to his clan.
Despite this, I'm sure you all know that the dev team can't just make a jutsu for every schmuck that waltzes in and makes a clan. The further we'd go the more clan specific jutsu we'd have to make, and the more ridiculous they would get.
So I propose a system. Allow clans from each village, after reaching a certain amount of members, to apply as an "Official" Clan. Do this until we get maybe 3 official clans in each village. Official clans can choose from a list of pre-approved hidden techniques created in the Jutsu Creation topic to use in their clan. First come first serve. Members will still be able to create their own clans in the same format as we have now, they just won't be able to have an official clan specific jutsu. The Clan leaders will also be able to strictly control the people using this technique by denying applicants they don't see fit.
I can brainstorm some ideas for the Hidden Jutsu' if the idea gets approved, but for now it's just a way I find to make clans more intuitive. As always let me know what you guys think of the idea, and if you'd prefer this system over the current system.
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Sounds like a good idea, but surely there would be no one making their own clan and you'd have people just wanting to join an official clan?
But honestly I support it as if it's about members it'll give the older clans (e.g. ones made now) an advantage.
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You are somewhat right about the discrepancy here.
However, your system will ultimately cause balance of power problems. Let's say some clans become "Official" and choose their own unique abilities. This would make these official clans (which already must be much more powerful compared to the rest) even stronger. They will end up getting much more applicants than any other clan. Who would join a low-member clan with no special skills when they can join a populated one that has exclusive powers? Basically no one. My point is, these official clans will get both unique powers and more population. Other clans will get neither.
In my opinion, there should only be official clans and that is it. Meaning no clans with just one or two members. This game is only getting bigger and more famous. Think of how it will be around release. If anyone had the ability to make their own clan, it would be hectic. Having hundreds of clans with just one or two players.. it's simply unrealistic. It might not look like it now, but soon it will turn into chaos. I say have only official clans. To be a clan, you need at least eight players to write down their names and register for that clan. The fact that eight players wanted to join a clan means that that clan must be special enough to deserve a place in the world. Because frankly, there is a limit on that.
That way, there will ultimately be less clan numbers, and more clan members.
Now, about the special abilities. This suggestion can happen, but not in this period of time at all. In fact, maybe a little while before release. There could be some sort of clan competition, with two or three winners from each village. The winning clans get to choose a special ability that can be implemented. That way, people who applied for that clan would have joined not because the clan has special powers, but because it actually has nice history/ physical features, etc. So in the end, like you suggested, only a few clans per village will have special abilities. The rest will still be official clans but without any. However like I said earlier, these clans are special enough to have a place. Since they got the interests of eight people, they will still be able to get more members because of it's features.
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You are somewhat right about the discrepancy here.
However, your system will ultimately cause balance of power problems. Let's say some clans become "Official" and choose their own unique abilities. This would make these official clans (which already must be much more powerful compared to the rest) even stronger. They will end up getting much more applicants than any other clan. Who would join a low-member clan with no special skills when they can join a populated one that has exclusive powers? Basically no one. My point is, these official clans will get both unique powers and more population. Other clans will get neither.
This
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Then again, would you join a clan with million players or a clan with 10 players?
Truth be told, we're lucky to be able to create clans and stuff now, we'll obviously have the upper hand anyways.
Tbh, a million clans wouldn't be cool.
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I think the players are focusing too much on clans. They're important to have support in the game and to be around people with whom you most identify with, etc. But I believe that this can weaken the connection of the players with their villages. Or at least divert their attention from what should be the focus of everyone, regardless of clan: the village in which it lies.
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@Isis
However, your system will ultimately cause balance of power problems. Let's say some clans become "Official" and choose their own unique abilities. This would make these official clans (which already must be much more powerful compared to the rest) even stronger. They will end up getting much more applicants than any other clan. Who would join a low-member clan with no special skills when they can join a populated one that has exclusive powers? Basically no one. My point is, these official clans will get both unique powers and more population. Other clans will get neither.
This is true and that is the point... In naruto this is why every ninja war except the 4th was fought.
It's not the village that has the clans it's the land. The land of fire for instance has up words of 16 clans in the village alone and that's not counting smaller outline villages and temple.Not all clans are as strong as others. You may be forgetting not everyone may want to be in a clan with 1000's of other people even if they could get a power out of it. Maybe they want the challenge of starting off small and building a clan from nothing. Or maybe they only want to play with there close friend in real life. There's nothing wrong with that and way the game is set up allows it. The smaller clans will have it much harder...and may not servive. But thay should at least have to option to try.
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To be a clan, you need at least eight players to write down their names and register for that clan. The fact that eight players wanted to join a clan means that that clan must be special enough to deserve a place in the world. Because frankly, there is a limit on that.
This...we have numerous dead clans in the clan thread. Something like this will not only make a clan much more valuable but require anyone interested in making a clan to stick around for a while and get to know people.
@Vreg
It doesnt have to be 8 people, maybe 4?
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To be a clan, you need at least eight players to write down their names and register for that clan. The fact that eight players wanted to join a clan means that that clan must be special enough to deserve a place in the world. Because frankly, there is a limit on that.
This...we have numerous dead clans in the clan thread. Something like this will not only make a clan much more valuable but require anyone interested in making a clan to stick around for a while and get to know people.
@Vreg
It doesnt have to be 8 people, maybe 4?
If we do this can we have like a time frame like 4 people In a six month period.
I would hate to have put all that effort in to the clan and then have it taken down right after I made it.
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As usual, thank's everyone for your feedback. What if the way clan jutsu was distributed wasn't simply the clan leader saucing you a book and you get a jutsu. Because that isn't quite how I'd see it. That way you'd have an advantage early on, and would simply crush most other genin/academy students. My goal is to have some kind of special ability that makes people go "This ninja is part of the Hidden Forests _____ Clan, known for their ____ technique" like what people do when they see a sharingan. Obviously this gives someone an advantage in a sense, but think of it like this. The Hatake clan, Kakashi uses alot of original jutsu (as well as everybody elses jutsu) with every base chakra nature. Shikamaru Nara uses only basic ninjutsu, and his shadow manipulation techniques. What I'm getting at, is that perhaps to use your clans hidden jutsu, you will have a Clan jutsu tree. If you want to put points into your clan jutsu, you're doing so in favor of putting it elsewhere.
This way, compared to a ninja who's not in a big clan you aren't just the same with better jutsu. You'd just have different jutsu.
To address the fact of the matter "Why would anyone NOT join a clan?" Well that's almost the plan really. If people don't want to be bound by their clan and just do whatever they want with their character, then they can "create" their own clan. Of course this would still leave the problem of thousands of dead clans on release. Maybe just create your character, and slap your last name on and that's your "clan".
I want Official clans to have advantages, but not in the sense that they are the same as regular ninja with extra jutsu.
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To address the fact of the matter "Why would anyone NOT join a clan?" Well that's almost the plan really. If people don't want to be bound by their clan and just do whatever they want with their character, then they can "create" their own clan. Of course this would still leave the problem of thousands of dead clans on release. Maybe just create your character, and slap your last name on and that's your "clan".
I want Official clans to have advantages, but not in the sense that they are the same as regular ninja with extra jutsu.
Those people who do not want to be bound by other people's clans like you said... If they want to make their own clan then it should be special and impressive enough to get a certain number of members to be classified as an official clan. If we have no restrictions on clans we'll have all sorts of wild ideas made by people who just don't satisfy others. Clans are not made for an individual, they're made for groups of people.
Either way, it's a nice suggestion and there are several ways it could be accomplished. The easiest and most sensible is the way I mentioned in my previous post. However one thing is for sure...Clans who end up getting advantages or special abilities should have a member limit. This way clan leaders will actually have to be careful who they pick in the future as a member, and no one who isn't worthy will join the clan just to get these special abilities.
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It is not practical to have clan trees and be able to create your own clan... This would require blank trees that when certain Jutsu are traind fill in with clan skills and that is at least I'm my Opinion backwards from the way Jutsu should be learned. You should have the nessessary skills in your tree already to learn a Jutsu requiring those skills.
If there is a clans abuilitys it should just effect the charicter stats at charicter creation so.
If the _clan from the hidden forest is know for there Taijustu, that's because at charicter creation they get a modifier to stamina, and strength. When you create a clan you get to choose 2 stats to modify- and maybe 1 in every 1000 clans or so they could be granted more then normal points to add to them.
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It is not practical to have clan trees and be able to create your own clan... This would require blank trees that when certain Jutsu are traind fill in with clan skills and that is at least I'm my Opinion backwards from the way Jutsu should be learned. You should have the nessessary skills in your tree already to learn a Jutsu requiring those skills.
If there is a clans abuilitys it should just effect the charicter stats at charicter creation so.
If the _clan from the hidden forest is know for there Taijustu, that's because at charicter creation they get a modifier to stamina, and strength. When you create a clan you get to choose 2 stats to modify- and maybe 1 in every 1000 clans or so they could be granted more then normal points to add to them.
I think you misunderstand. What I mean to say is that you only get this tree when being accepted into an official clan. By "Make your own clan" I mean simply don't join one. Say you make a character named Mike Smith, he's now part of the "Smith" clan. He doesn't get anything for it, but he technically just created his own clan.
Getting stat boosts for joining a clan is a little far fetched to me as well. Because then anyone in a clan is just systematically better than somebody who isn't. He doesn't have to sacrifice say his water style jutsu mastery for anything, because now he's just automatically faster and stronger than anybody not in his clan. The clan jutsu would need to come at the cost of mastering other things, or else you're literally the same as everyone else except you have more jutsu.
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Just because a clan has lots of members, doesn't mean they deserve to be an original clan.
I'd prefer to have a system where these "official" clans were hand picked by kage or game mods for being honorable, nice, skilled or helping.
But regardless, I love my clan like a family and we don't need a special jutsu to hold us together :D
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Just because a clan has lots of members, doesn't mean they deserve to be an original clan.
I'd prefer to have a system where these "official" clans were hand picked by kage or game mods for being honorable, nice, skilled or helping.
But regardless, I love my clan like a family and we don't need a special jutsu to hold us together :D
I can agree with you there. Clans would have to apply to become official, and perhaps the applications can be sorted by a 3 man council. Somebody on the dev team, a moderator, and the kage of that village
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2 things about this
I think you misunderstand. What I mean to say is that you only get this tree when being accepted into an official clan. By "Make your own clan" I mean simply don't join one. Say you make a character named Mike Smith, he's now part of the "Smith" clan. He doesn't get anything for it, but he technically just created his own clan.
Getting stat boosts for joining a clan is a little far fetched to me as well. Because then anyone in a clan is just systematically better than somebody who isn't. He doesn't have to sacrifice say his water style jutsu mastery for anything, because now he's just automatically faster and stronger than anybody not in his clan. The clan jutsu would need to come at the cost of mastering other things, or else you're literally the same as everyone else except you have more jutsu.
1- I get were your coming from and Mars is right for this to work it would have to be the dev's that monitor and approve as well as make and give clans what ever tree that clan needs- deserves.
But this is a lot of work if you can make your own clan simple creating a last name..
2- as for the stat thing:
The Idea is that everyone that makes a character needs to eather pick from a list of existing clans( all with clan traits that show the stat bonus and with clan Jutsu, if the clan has bin around long enough to get/find one, listed)
Or make your own clan
If you make your own by entering the name smith -to use your example -a stat modifier screen lets you take 2 point and move them to another- not giving you more points to add
Then once in 1000 players a baby is born (player created )with exceptional attributes
(stats) and might get 2 point extra as well as the option to take 2 points from others adding up to 2 points extra in 2 stats. But this way there are up sides to both joining an existing clan and creating one yourself.
As the definition of a clan heavily implies family taies it's strange already to get to choose what clan your in... No one can choose the family there born into in real life. So going a little further and letting you choose if there's somthing you want to be particularly good in, at the expense of something else, is not that much more fare fetched. Naruto was born with a lot of physical energy and strength, but he is week in intelligence and dexterity, he had to train Realy hard to get good at throwing shuraken and kuni. And he never Realy got all that bright.
And so stats should only effect how easy or hard it is for you to learn somthing and maybe play a role in the amount of chakra you have. Everyone can still learn everything it might just make things harder for some then others witch is realistic.
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Or maybe, the Devs could say that a clan with let's say 1000 members, will get the privilege to choose one of a selected few abilities, even get to be able to add their own "clan tattoo" in.
Someone would maybe choose to make his clan skilled Genjutsu ninja, so he'd want that all his clan members gets an increase at Genjutsu stats. Or somthing like that.
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Or maybe, the Devs could say that a clan with let's say 1000 members, will get the privilege to choose one of a selected few abilities, even get to be able to add their own "clan tattoo" in.
Someone would maybe choose to make his clan skilled Genjutsu ninja, so he'd want that all his clan members gets an increase at Genjutsu stats. Or somthing like that.
I'm not sure size of a clan should matter all that much. sence everyone but that 1 in a 1000 player has the same number of points In There stats just distributed difently. What will make a clan well known is strangth of Jutsu or numbers
Obviously you going to remember a last name you see it everywere like Smith or Lee
But a clans size dose not deserve any extra reworded for being popular.
If a clan has only 4 members but there all kaga ranked and have traind for a Realy long time to be that why... Why should they loose out to a clan of 1000 genin ranked players. If clan abuilitys are going to be handed out ...it should be to the clans with the highest combined ranking of all the members.
Basically reword abuilitys not popularity... Don't you all get enough of that in high school!!!
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Or maybe, the Devs could say that a clan with let's say 1000 members, will get the privilege to choose one of a selected few abilities, even get to be able to add their own "clan tattoo" in.
Someone would maybe choose to make his clan skilled Genjutsu ninja, so he'd want that all his clan members gets an increase at Genjutsu stats. Or somthing like that.
That wouldn't work. Because then, everyone would just apply to the most populated clan, regardless if they actually like the clan for what it is or not.
The way I see it, it would work like this :
1 - Have a population limit to create a clan. (Anywhere between 4 and 8 members is fine)
2 - Make some sort of clan tournament, (maybe DM) in which there would be two or three winning clans from each village. Those winning clans get special abilities.
3 - Winning clans get a population limit so that not everyone applies hoping to get exclusive powers. Maybe ten or twenty more members prior to what they had before the tournament would be fine. Winning clan's leaders would then have to be careful who they accept. These clans will have a much higher standard and players will have to prove themselves to be a part of it. If you see a member of that clan, you would instantly know that they must be skilled, since they made it to that clan. That way they will possess special powers, but not mass numbers.
With your suggestion, a clan would have both: special powers and high population.
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Again having a lot of members In a clan will not help the clan of its bassed on the clans memebers average rank in fact it would be easer to get a higher ranking if your clan had only a few high ranking ninja in it. Remember that these Jutsu we are talking about need not be granted only onece. If the shadow possession Jutsu is the reword for the first time the clan wins it... The next time they get the shadow strangle - after that the shadow stichiching. I'm not saying clans should not have a player cap but I have a feeling players will die before a sufficient player cap is reached.
100 to 200 members is a Realy good size clan.
I would expect a clan like this to have hidden
jutsu's
So the highest ranking clan gets the Jutsu
Say once a year.
If there are 5 leagues bassed on population
1-10, 11-24, 25-50, 50-100, and 100-200
200 being the cap
Then the dev's only need to come out With 5 Jutsu every year.
Over time this will lead to clans that are known for a specific Jutsu... But they still need to protect them... And remember joining a clan with a lot of people even one that has a hidden Jutsu- DOSE NOT mean you will be able to learn it as soon as you join. Each league should have a correspondingly difficult Jutsu. so you can as a genin join a clan with a Jutsu like the mind distraction Jutsu or the shadow stitching Jutsu, but you must still train to a point to be able to learn it.
But I think the clan founder should have the right to deside who he lets in the clan... We can all agree on that right??
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But I think the clan founder should have the right to deside how he lets in the clan... We can all agree on that right??
From a gaming perspective, yes. From a realistic perspective, you can't really choose who'sin your family. I'm interested to see what decision the devs make on this matter.
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Each league should have a correspondingly difficult Jutsu. so you can as a genin join a clan with a Jutsu like the mind distraction Jutsu or the shadow stitching Jutsu, but you must still train to a point to be able to learn it.
But what you're suggesting is that the strongest clans will simply have the most players? A small clan will never have the possibility to become powerful. Imo that's not fair, if this idea is to be implemented, I'd suggest it was similar to KKG, where a clan makes one (if they want) and the jutsu is (possibly) added to the game.
The only difference between normal jutsu and clan jutsu would be either:
- Members of the clan being able to use the jutsu at a lower chakra cost.
- Members of the clan being able to use the jutsu more effectively.
- Both of the above.
- All the copies/ The only copy of the scroll is given to the clan leader at the start of the game.
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Again having a lot of members In a clan will not help the clan of its bassed on the clans memebers average rank in fact it would be easer to get a higher ranking if your clan had only a few high ranking ninja in it. Remember that these Jutsu we are talking about need not be granted only onece. If the shadow possession Jutsu is the reword for the first time the clan wins it... The next time they get the shadow strangle - after that the shadow stichiching. I'm not saying clans should not have a player cap but I have a feeling players will die before a sufficient player cap is reached.
Not necessarily. If you're in a clan that has a special ability, does not really mean it will be easier to climb the clan's ranks. Sure, there might be less people, but each and every one of them will be highly-skilled. They are strictly-chosen shinobi. They have exclusive powers, so they have less quantity but more quality. It would not be easy making it to the top ranks of that clan.
Also, you're right. At first, those clans that do get exclusive powers might have some inactive players from the past. But that wouldn't last long. If there is a clan limit, these inactive players will be replaced with much better players who are guaranteed to stay for a long-term period.
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Also, you're right. At first, those clans that do get exclusive powers might have some inactive players from the past. But that wouldn't last long. If there is a clan limit, these inactive players will be replaced with much better players who are guaranteed to stay for a long-term period.
reaaaaaaally good idea, encourages activity while also not limiting old clans to old players +rep
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The only thing I'm concerned about with these idea's is that if you simply get a scroll, then learning the jutsu is effortless and comes at no cost.
Take Kakashi for example, he reads the "Aburame clan jutsu scroll". Now he's got every move a regular Aburame clan member has, while still retaining his mastery of every other chakra nature, taijutsu, dojutsu , etc. He didn't have to strengthen the technique over time and sacrifice the time to learn it over something else. He read a piece of paper that said "put bugs in ur body lol" and he was instantly enlightened.
That's kind of why I would want the skill tree method, because you'd have to advance your mastery of it instead of learning a new fire style jutsu, or a new genjutsu. Really stressing that you shouldn't be identical to someone the same level as you in every way, with one difference being that you have more jutsu. Other than that, the tournament is a good way to get the jutsu initially.
Glad this is getting a lot of ideas passed around though
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The only thing I'm concerned about with these idea's is that if you simply get a scroll, then learning the jutsu is effortless and comes at no cost.
Take Kakashi for example, he reads the "Aburame clan jutsu scroll". Now he's got every move a regular Aburame clan member has, while still retaining his mastery of every other chakra nature, taijutsu, dojutsu , etc. He didn't have to strengthen the technique over time and sacrifice the time to learn it over something else. He read a piece of paper that said "put bugs in ur body lol" and he was instantly enlightened.
That's kind of why I would want the skill tree method, because you'd have to advance your mastery of it instead of learning a new fire style jutsu, or a new genjutsu. Really stressing that you shouldn't be identical to someone the same level as you in every way, with one difference being that you have more jutsu. Other than that, the tournament is a good way to get the jutsu initially.
Glad this is getting a lot of ideas passed around though
loool good points
so I'm guessing you were thinking of something along the lines of this?
The only difference between normal jutsu and clan jutsu would be either:
- Members of the clan being able to use the jutsu at a lower chakra cost.
- Members of the clan being able to use the jutsu more effectively.
- Both of the above.
- All the copies/ The only copy of the scroll is given to the clan leader at the start of the game.
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Something of that sort ^
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I think clan jutsu's should be just as effective as normal jutsus with no extra chakra cost.
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I think clan jutsu's should be just as effective as normal jutsus with no extra chakra cost.
Exactly, not better but unique
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Suggestion:
There'll be 10 Top Clans, these clans could have their own Jutsu and Style. One of 'em could have the Shadow Binding Arts, other could be Ninja Dogs and Ninjas, and so on.
Tbh, not all clans has special powers and stuff, actually, normal clans in Naruto are just normal, they have no abilities whatsoever. Ever thought of Minato NAMIKAZE.
Why should all clans have special powers?
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Suggestion:
There'll be 10 Top Clans, these clans could have their own Jutsu and Style. One of 'em could have the Shadow Binding Arts, other could be Ninja Dogs and Ninjas, and so on.
Tbh, not all clans has special powers and stuff, actually, normal clans in Naruto are just normal, they have no abilities whatsoever. Ever thought of Minato NAMIKAZE.
Why should all clans have special powers?
Meh, there are far more than 10 ideas xD So why not have more than 10 clans?
And alot of clans won't have any "special powers" tis fine :p
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I'm fine without any special ability clanwise tbh..
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Suggestion:
There'll be 10 Top Clans, these clans could have their own Jutsu and Style. One of 'em could have the Shadow Binding Arts, other could be Ninja Dogs and Ninjas, and so on.
Tbh, not all clans has special powers and stuff, actually, normal clans in Naruto are just normal, they have no abilities whatsoever. Ever thought of Minato NAMIKAZE.
Why should all clans have special powers?
I guess there saying if we are trying to have a feel of a naruto type world then there should be clans with and without abuilitys. To encourage gameplay and activity as well as improving skills of individual players they have the ELO system. Clan memebers all have it so you can add all the elo scores up and devide by the number off clan members to get the clans rank in there respective leagues... The highest ranking clans would receive the Jutsu. This continues to encourage gameplay and accomplishes the feel of a naruto world were you have clans with Jutsu and those with out.
Clan founders should be required to learn the teach skill so that if there clan ever receive a scroll the founder is the only one that can teach that Jutsu. If the founder of the clan is killed the position will fall to the next highest ranking member. But he must them learn the teach skill if he hasn't already.
This way that thing with kakashi learning the aberami clan Jutsu would not happen.
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Suggestion:
There'll be 10 Top Clans, these clans could have their own Jutsu and Style. One of 'em could have the Shadow Binding Arts, other could be Ninja Dogs and Ninjas, and so on.
Tbh, not all clans has special powers and stuff, actually, normal clans in Naruto are just normal, they have no abilities whatsoever. Ever thought of Minato NAMIKAZE.
Why should all clans have special powers?
I'm not saying ALL clans get powers, I'm saying a selected few could get powers.
Let me bring this away from jutsu for a minute. The Uchiha clan has a special area designated for them in the hidden leaf, because of its founding roots. The Nara clan also has clan territory, aswell as the Hyuuga. What about clan houses? There are some ways I can think of to implement this.
1: Make clan houses for the official clans of that village
2: Make empty lots, that can be rented by a clan leader for as long as they can afford to pay for it. Similar to a guild hall in traditional mmorpg's
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If I remember right clan houses will be instenced
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So right now, if you look at how clans work on SLO and in the Naruto universe there's a bit of discrepancy.
Let me run through some examples of just what I'm talking about.
The Nara Clan: Known for their secret shadow manipulation techniques
Inuzuka Clan: Known for their Man/Beast Jutsu
Hozuki Clan: Known for their Unique Water Style Jutsu
Iburi Clan: Known for their ability to take on the form of smoke
Clans on SLO however, currently can only share physical traits and perhaps a main chakra nature.
Now you can discover and pass along a jutsu through the lines of the clan and have a sort of makeshift hidden clan jutsu, however nothing prevents someone from a different clan or village to discover the technique the same way the original founder did, and also pass that down to his clan.
Despite this, I'm sure you all know that the dev team can't just make a jutsu for every schmuck that waltzes in and makes a clan. The further we'd go the more clan specific jutsu we'd have to make, and the more ridiculous they would get.
So I propose a system. Allow clans from each village, after reaching a certain amount of members, to apply as an "Official" Clan. Do this until we get maybe 3 official clans in each village. Official clans can choose from a list of pre-approved hidden techniques created in the Jutsu Creation topic to use in their clan. First come first serve. Members will still be able to create their own clans in the same format as we have now, they just won't be able to have an official clan specific jutsu. The Clan leaders will also be able to strictly control the people using this technique by denying applicants they don't see fit.
I can brainstorm some ideas for the Hidden Jutsu' if the idea gets approved, but for now it's just a way I find to make clans more intuitive. As always let me know what you guys think of the idea, and if you'd prefer this system over the current system.
Great system proposed similar system recently as an example but you've explained it much better, i think at the stage the game is at in terms of development this is a good way to implement clans properly.
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The only thing I'm concerned about with these idea's is that if you simply get a scroll, then learning the jutsu is effortless and comes at no cost.
Take Kakashi for example, he reads the "Aburame clan jutsu scroll". Now he's got every move a regular Aburame clan member has, while still retaining his mastery of every other chakra nature, taijutsu, dojutsu , etc. He didn't have to strengthen the technique over time and sacrifice the time to learn it over something else. He read a piece of paper that said "put bugs in ur body lol" and he was instantly enlightened.
That's kind of why I would want the skill tree method, because you'd have to advance your mastery of it instead of learning a new fire style jutsu, or a new genjutsu. Really stressing that you shouldn't be identical to someone the same level as you in every way, with one difference being that you have more jutsu. Other than that, the tournament is a good way to get the jutsu initially.
Glad this is getting a lot of ideas passed around though
Jutsu can be trained remember just because you know how to use a Jutsu after learning it from a scroll dose not meen your instantly a master at that Jutsu. Think about naruto and shadow clones... He read the scroll practiced it a couple times and learned the shadow clone Jutsu... But only after kakashi showed naruto what shadow clones could Realy do did he level up that Jutsu if you will.
There is no need for skill trees for this effect... Each Jutsu could simply have several levels that you learn as you use them... There was a idea of a activation counter that keeps trike of how many times you use the Jutsu 10 uses gets it stronger 100 another level and so on. There could even be trainers hidden around the world to unlock hidden potential in the Jutsu you know. Kinda like kakashi did for naruto.