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Re: General disscusion
« Reply #330 on: March 10, 2016, 15:46:57 »
VREG CONFIRMED FORBIDDEN JUTSU CAN BE TAUGHT. THIS WOULD LIKELY TAKE A WHILE... BUT

I'm guessing that you misunderstood Konohuro?
He said:
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Not really... forbidden is well... forbidden, not only "hidden".
So forbidden jutsus wouldn't be allowed for the villagers.

Meaning of forbidden: "not permitted by order or law"
He said that it would be against the law for villagers to have a 'forbidden' jutsu.

Yes, forbidden techniques could be taught to other people.
But that still doesn't make it legal in certain villages.



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Re: General disscusion
« Reply #331 on: March 10, 2016, 15:47:32 »
Not really... forbidden is well... forbidden, not only "hidden".
So forbidden jutsus wouldn't be allowed for the villagers.

America's suggestion is a very good one.
VREG CONFIRMED FORBIDDEN JUTSU CAN BE TAUGHT. THIS WOULD LIKELY TAKE A WHILE... BUT

sooooooo?A forbidden jutsu is dangerous to everyone, while secret clan jutsu are VERY not dangerous to the caster.

just cause Forbidden jutsu can be taught doesn't mean it's good to use it, it puts too much strain on the user/kills the user in exchange for a SUPER DUPER Buff, so forbidden, that is not the case for secret clan jutsu.
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Re: General disscusion
« Reply #332 on: March 10, 2016, 18:39:29 »
Nova explained it for me. First, understand the meaning of the word "forbidden".


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Re: General disscusion
« Reply #333 on: March 10, 2016, 19:35:55 »
A forbidden jutsu does not have to damage the caster. Kage bunshin was labelled kinjutsu, because they claimed it was a dangerous jutsu not needed after the wars.
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Re: General disscusion
« Reply #334 on: March 11, 2016, 04:28:45 »
the second hokage's reanimation was forbidden and it had no danger at all to the caster.

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Re: General disscusion
« Reply #335 on: March 11, 2016, 05:13:13 »
Still, a forbidden technique can't be turned in a clan's secret jutsu.


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Re: General disscusion
« Reply #336 on: March 11, 2016, 05:18:34 »
They are too dangerous for the world to be there

The name states it ffs, and most DO hurt the user quite a lot.

Forbidden is not = to clan jutsu
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Re: General disscusion
« Reply #337 on: March 11, 2016, 11:42:52 »
Lol I'm not sure what to think of this discussion haha.
Quite simple really forbidden = not allowed.
Unless the kage allows it then I guess it's.....unforbidden??( don't think that's a word tho lol).
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Re: General disscusion
« Reply #338 on: March 11, 2016, 11:56:24 »
Lol I'm not sure what to think of this discussion haha.
Quite simple really forbidden = not allowed.
Unless the kage allows it then I guess it's.....unforbidden??( don't think that's a word tho lol).
I don't think any Kage would be stupid enough to do that xP.
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Re: General disscusion
« Reply #339 on: March 11, 2016, 21:02:40 »
To America's suggestion of clans with high ELO getting a KKG, in some aspects it would be a good reward for  hard working players and a great incentive to get to the top. Though, on the other hand, how would you get to the top when all the good clans have a KKG to take advantage of?
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Re: General disscusion
« Reply #340 on: March 11, 2016, 23:02:34 »
To America's suggestion of clans with high ELO getting a KKG, in some aspects it would be a good reward for  hard working players and a great incentive to get to the top. Though, on the other hand, how would you get to the top when all the good clans have a KKG to take advantage of?
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I wouldn't really say it's a KKG, but just one specific jutsu that is passed through the clan. Like if it is a clan of wind users then maybe they get a special technique that allows them to use their wind chakra to jump an extra time in air. It wouldn't be anything on the scale of what sharingan was to the naruto series.
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Re: General disscusion
« Reply #341 on: March 11, 2016, 23:54:14 »
To America's suggestion of clans with high ELO getting a KKG, in some aspects it would be a good reward for  hard working players and a great incentive to get to the top. Though, on the other hand, how would you get to the top when all the good clans have a KKG to take advantage of?
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I wouldn't really say it's a KKG, but just one specific jutsu that is passed through the clan. Like if it is a clan of wind users then maybe they get a special technique that allows them to use their wind chakra to jump an extra time in air. It wouldn't be anything on the scale of what sharingan was to the naruto series.
Sounds good. I would like to see clan exclusive jutsus.
There will be a lot of clans in-game so it'll be impossible to make a special jutsu for each one, but we could have a special jutsu for each nature and award it depending on what nature the clan uses.
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Re: General disscusion
« Reply #342 on: March 12, 2016, 01:48:24 »
i know it was said genjutsu will cause no damage.. but what about a high level genjutsu that reflects jutsu back on the opponent... kinda like when deidara and itachi's first fight when deidara joined the akatsuki. the genjutsu stitches the target back on himself.

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Re: General disscusion
« Reply #343 on: March 12, 2016, 09:17:41 »
i know it was said genjutsu will cause no damage.. but what about a high level genjutsu that reflects jutsu back on the opponent... kinda like when deidara and itachi's first fight when deidara joined the akatsuki. the genjutsu stitches the target back on himself.

That's not a normal genjutsu. Using Eye of Hypnotism, the Sharingan user can suggest thoughts and actions to a target. So it wasn't really reflecting jutsu but he made Deidara cast the jutsu on himself and at the same time he controlled what Deidara was seeing, changing the reality.
I don't see how such a genjutsu can be made in a game but anyway, this should be one of the most powerful genjutsu that shouldn't be in anyone's hands.


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Re: General disscusion
« Reply #344 on: March 12, 2016, 12:42:21 »
i know it was said genjutsu will cause no damage.. but what about a high level genjutsu that reflects jutsu back on the opponent... kinda like when deidara and itachi's first fight when deidara joined the akatsuki. the genjutsu stitches the target back on himself.

That's not a normal genjutsu. Using Eye of Hypnotism, the Sharingan user can suggest thoughts and actions to a target. So it wasn't really reflecting jutsu but he made Deidara cast the jutsu on himself and at the same time he controlled what Deidara was seeing, changing the reality.
I don't see how such a genjutsu can be made in a game but anyway, this should be one of the most powerful genjutsu that shouldn't be in anyone's hands.
Well to start with a genjutsu like this would only effect ninjutsu--- thrown objects and taijutsu would be unaffected by this genjutsu. second it would be a kind of timed debuff that shifts all damage you take from a jutsu to your opponent...it really would not be that hard.... certain conditions for the jutsu must be met of course...the opponent must stay in sight,and the genjutsu is released after the first hit. so a jutsu like flame thrower that is a DOT attack is the best bet to counter. you'll take a little damage but the following hits connect to the genjutsu user. the genjutsu user must maintain a tiger hand seal to keep it active. leaving him unabel to block.
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