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The relevance of the village bound organizations
« on: January 14, 2015, 02:32:28 »
As of late, a lot of Village affiliated organizations appeared, all of them having as a set goal:

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To hunt rogues and missing nins.

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To protect the village.

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What I'd like to talk about is the actual relevance of those organizations when a fully functional shinobi village system already exists.


All of those organizations work in a similar fashion: you tell us the target, pay us(before, after the completion of 50/50) and we eliminate it. Why would anyone pay for a job that ANBU are supposed to do anyways, and most probably cheaper, considering that is a full time job for them, whereas you, as a member of an organization also have your regular village duties to fulfill.

Moreover, if you accept payment to eliminate certain targets, what exactly stops people from paying you to eliminate shinobi of other villages they might have a feud with and so on. Contrary to what seems to be a popular belief on this forum, this game will not feature two factions: village shinobi vs missing nins. Fact is, chances are that the village vs village conflicts and wars will be far more often encountered than a rogue vs village one, mainly because rogues will be a more divided faction. So, even though by joining such an organization you deem yourself as noble other such attributes that I can't be arsed to use, you'll most probably end up having to kill ninja from other villages to ensure your organization's continuity.

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Most organizations nowadays started using a council instead of a single leader. First of all, an organization that works directly under the Kage was most likely entrusted to a single man, rather than a council. In the eventuality that lore wise, your character was the one to found the organization, it still hardly makes any sense for him to share leadership with others when the goal that he/she wishes to attain through the said organization is his in the first place.

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Re: The relevance of the village bound organizations
« Reply #1 on: January 14, 2015, 04:49:18 »
As you said about the council system, i think organizations should think to implement something more advanced, as the democracy now is, "President", "VicePresident" and a council (maybe 3 would sufficient just like in Konoha), presidents have the contacts of their organization, and can take limited actions. Important ones, such as declaring war should be consulted with the council, and when the president is not available, the Vice-President takes the charge.
Organizations that already have a single leader could just stay as they are, but of course can take into consideration all possibilities.

Why would anyone pay for a job that ANBU are supposed to do anyways, and most probably cheaper, considering that is a full time job for them, whereas you, as a member of an organization also have your regular village duties to fulfill.

And for this a could say; organizations will most likely have powerful ninjas, way stronger than ANBUs i could say. that would be a good reason, less risk i guess
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Re: The relevance of the village bound organizations
« Reply #2 on: January 14, 2015, 05:05:40 »
Why would anyone pay for a job that ANBU are supposed to do anyways, and most probably cheaper, considering that is a full time job for them, whereas you, as a member of an organization also have your regular village duties to fulfill.

And for this a could say; organizations will most likely have powerful ninjas, way stronger than ANBUs i could say. that would be a good reason, less risk i guess

Far from it actually. Joining an organization will be far easier than joining the ANBU.
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Re: The relevance of the village bound organizations
« Reply #3 on: January 14, 2015, 05:38:36 »
Why would anyone pay for a job that ANBU are supposed to do anyways, and most probably cheaper, considering that is a full time job for them, whereas you, as a member of an organization also have your regular village duties to fulfill.

And for this a could say; organizations will most likely have powerful ninjas, way stronger than ANBUs i could say. that would be a good reason, less risk i guess

Far from it actually. Joining an organization will be far easier than joining the ANBU.

I'm not saying joining an organization will be harder, but SLO will start off with many organizations,  and not many ANBUs. And those who would prefer "easier protection", would join the organizations. Saying so, Organizations will increase their power faster that the village itself maybe(maybe, MAYBE!), but well, it all depends on the organizations' bases and objectives. But what the hell, if get to be a powerful shinobi, i'll prefer to be the kage rather than a organization's leader.
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Re: The relevance of the village bound organizations
« Reply #4 on: January 15, 2015, 02:34:06 »
The goals of most "good" organizations is to take out rogue shinobi, since most villages like M4 said will not send people to do that unless a threat. That is what the "good" organizations are for.
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Re: The relevance of the village bound organizations
« Reply #5 on: January 15, 2015, 03:00:28 »
The goals of most "good" organizations is to take out rogue shinobi, since most villages like M4 said will not send people to do that unless a threat. That is what the "good" organizations are for.
Exactly, villages will only stop threats torwards them but the good organisations will take out any rogue ninja they can.
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Re: The relevance of the village bound organizations
« Reply #6 on: January 16, 2015, 07:16:52 »
Let's say i want to go missing but not to kill anyone just missing , will other villages or organisations try to find me and kill me?
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Re: The relevance of the village bound organizations
« Reply #7 on: January 16, 2015, 11:56:53 »
Let's say i want to go missing but not to kill anyone just missing , will other villages or organisations try to find me and kill me?
In that case you wouldn't be classified as a missing nin, just a simple village-less shinobi. So most villages shouldn't concern you, since you won't be on their hunt list. However, during your travels running into a blood lusted missing nin could still get you killed.
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Re: The relevance of the village bound organizations
« Reply #8 on: January 18, 2015, 23:03:52 »
Why does this even matter?
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Re: The relevance of the village bound organizations
« Reply #9 on: January 18, 2015, 23:49:57 »
@Reminance  why does this not even matter?
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Re: The relevance of the village bound organizations
« Reply #10 on: January 19, 2015, 10:44:00 »
@rayzote Because many organizations are going to have the same goal atleast thats what i think.
They arent going to change their mind about changing their goal only because people are saying whats the point if you have the same goal as ANBU..
But keep on discussing i have nothing against it :)
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Re: The relevance of the village bound organizations
« Reply #11 on: January 19, 2015, 19:03:35 »
@m4r1us About the village vs village war thing, I think most of us will choose a side that has a goal they approve of, (or at least that's what Nami's gonna do) and if there is no side with a goal that we like we just don't join or join the village with the most coins to spare ;). I do think what you said is true though, about village vs vilage appearing more often.
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Re: The relevance of the village bound organizations
« Reply #12 on: January 19, 2015, 23:05:04 »
Do you guys think there will be much village wars?
Like constantly war or only once in a while.
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Re: The relevance of the village bound organizations
« Reply #13 on: January 20, 2015, 18:20:26 »
Not constantly but they might occur more then village vs rogue nin
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