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Offline SirTroll

Re: General disscusion
« Reply #360 on: March 22, 2016, 12:57:17 »
It may be true that you aren't protected, but if you're blindfolded and suddenly start seeing things - it's utterly obvious that you're in a genjutsu. If you block all your senses (touch can be blocked with a general sedative) and rely on chakra detection with senjutsu you would be pseudo-immune (any and all genjutsu becomes blatantly obvious) I wasn't saying that you need to replace all of your senses, but if you know where they are and they are weak at taijutsu then you can still beat them.

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Re: General disscusion
« Reply #361 on: March 22, 2016, 13:38:12 »
It may be true that you aren't protected, but if you're blindfolded and suddenly start seeing things - it's utterly obvious that you're in a genjutsu.

I haven't said that it would be an effective genjutsu, only said that you wouldn't be protected. Also, the genjutsu may start by seeing someone ripping off the blindfold...

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touch can be blocked with a general sedative

Well, not really. By applying a sedative, you wouldn't feel that you were touched but this wouldn't change the fact that you were touched and the caster's chakra penetrated your body.


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Re: General disscusion
« Reply #362 on: March 22, 2016, 14:27:04 »
You guys missed the point of what i was saying... Because the genjutsu users chakra must enter the body and does so through 1 and only 1 scene you only need to disable that one scene from being targeted. if it effets sight- blindfold, earplugs for sound, a close pin for smell-lol- taste is how kabuto did it...he vaporized chakra and dispersed it and the crowd breathed it in. he also used a touch genjutsu on the guy next to him before he cast his wide spread genjutsu. touch is rarely employed in genjutsu because it requires close combat witch genjutsu users try to avoid.

so you only need to figure out what sense it targeted by the genjutsu to stop it from affecting you. how ever this is not easy and unless it obvious like talula's fluet it is usually nearly impossible to figure out until you're under it at least once.



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Re: General disscusion
« Reply #363 on: March 22, 2016, 14:54:15 »
I disagree with this. If a genjutsu is delivered through sound it doesn't mean the illusion will consist of sounds.

I will assume you mean Tayuya instead of Talula.
Tayuya used a genjutsu delivered through sound that affected the target's sight and pain feeling.


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Re: General disscusion
« Reply #364 on: March 22, 2016, 14:55:03 »
I disagree with this. If a genjutsu is delivered through sound it doesn't mean the illusion will consist of sounds.

I will assume you mean Tayuya instead of Talula.
Tayuya used a genjutsu delivered through sound that affected the target's sight and pain feeling.

No i agree with that... i'm talking about how to stop the genjutsu from ever effecting you in the first place.
you must stop it at the delivery point the point where it enters the targets body.
« Last Edit: March 22, 2016, 14:56:45 by cmsurfer »



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Re: General disscusion
« Reply #365 on: March 22, 2016, 16:05:31 »
I disagree with this. If a genjutsu is delivered through sound it doesn't mean the illusion will consist of sounds.

I will assume you mean Tayuya instead of Talula.
Tayuya used a genjutsu delivered through sound that affected the target's sight and pain feeling.

No i agree with that... i'm talking about how to stop the genjutsu from ever effecting you in the first place.
you must stop it at the delivery point the point where it enters the targets body.

Yeah well this is something else. And as i said, it's impossible to pause all your senses and still be able to fight, even with a sensory skill like the one that comes with senjutsu.


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Re: General disscusion
« Reply #366 on: March 22, 2016, 16:07:38 »
Again you don't need to block all senses just the one targeted by that genjutsu



Offline Konohuro

Re: General disscusion
« Reply #367 on: March 22, 2016, 16:21:56 »
Again you don't need to block all senses just the one targeted by that genjutsu

In this case you would have to stare at your enemy, study his movement and then do like a monkey.


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Re: General disscusion
« Reply #368 on: March 22, 2016, 16:52:35 »
Again you don't need to block all senses just the one targeted by that genjutsu

In this case you would have to stare at your enemy, study his movement and then do like a monkey.

lmaoooo. Ok, I see where you are coming from kono - and (sorry cm) I guess i kinda agree with you. if the genjutsu starts with ripping of the blindfold etc I guess that'd work. Also, surely the chakra detection given by senjutsu kinda counts as a sense? so it could cause a genjutsu :P

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Re: General disscusion
« Reply #369 on: March 22, 2016, 18:50:04 »
Sandāreisu and Nakadori are allied, I see big things happening (-_- )
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Re: General disscusion
« Reply #370 on: March 22, 2016, 19:13:37 »
Again you don't need to block all senses just the one targeted by that genjutsu

In this case you would have to stare at your enemy, study his movement and then do like a monkey.


Or require before hand preparation. But regardless against a strong genjutsu user it's better to retreat. if its one on one.



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Re: General disscusion
« Reply #371 on: March 27, 2016, 22:47:26 »
its a shame you failed to join Sanderaisu

@Yamasukage
It's also a shame to see you posting that on every single character thread of people who didn't want to join your clan.
I get that you want more people in your clan, but you saying that stuff on people who already picked their clan seems pretty useless and kinda disrespectful to me.



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Re: General disscusion
« Reply #372 on: March 28, 2016, 00:39:27 »
its a shame you failed to join Sanderaisu

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It's also a shame to see you posting that on every single character thread of people who didn't want to join your clan.
I get that you want more people in your clan, but you saying that stuff on people who already picked their clan seems pretty useless and kinda disrespectful to me.
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Re: General disscusion
« Reply #373 on: March 28, 2016, 00:41:27 »
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Re: General disscusion
« Reply #374 on: March 28, 2016, 22:24:00 »
Lol really this trying to block your five senses thing is impractical. You just have to be smart and be aware of your enemy or surroundings.
There are measures you can take for things like this.
Par example : Staying a good distance away.
Try to not to make eye contact . Etc.

Like there's limits to genjustu too.


remember that time when Naruto fought Itachi? He avoided eye contact, but he was still affected by the genjutsu due to looking at Itachi's finger. Thus what you're saying is also impractical and imo genjutsu will just be awkwardly hard to balance
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