I'm just saying that it's the only way ELO could be implemented into the game.

The obvious answer would be to interpret the game as a 1v1 using the average ELO of each member in a team. When one team is defeated, each player gets the same increase based on the relative ranks of each teams average. Everyone would get the same increase so nobody is gimped. This would only work for simple situations (3v3, 2v2, 1v1), which is something that would rarely happen in game.

Quote from: AbeMelbs on August 30, 2016, 21:40:54

1. Name?(Username and Character Name): Kyuzaki (AbeMelbs)
2. Chakra Nature: Wind (Primary) Fire (Secondary)
3. Position you're applying for? ( Dōshi? and if so which Dōshi) (Or Main member? and if so which Main Member): Dōshi of Fox
4. Why do you think you deserve that position?: Because i will train hard for Haru, and show that can be the best! Plus im the music man
5. Nickname (If you have one):Kyu
6. Do you promise to protect all other members?:I swear
7. Swear to Minato that these answers are all true:I swear unto minato my answers are all true!

accepted

Welcome @AbeMelbs

6. Correct me if I'm wrong, Charlie, you mean if he withdraws from the final test? The rival will not become a Kage automatically as he will be placed in Assorted Cluster to fight. Please read the mechanics.

I meant that someone would purposely lose, not withdraw.

Quote from: Charlie on August 06, 2016, 14:39:17

Quote from: Phone Star on August 06, 2016, 14:23:54

^That's surely gonna happen if your opponent is extremely weak and he couldn't do damage on you retaining your health points and consequently the points you get. The 500 points in this test is given so you have enough allowance, as we expect you will lose health points in the process. Giving you sufficient points like 350 or something is very tight we may end up with no one winning.

IMO you should give equal weight to each section.

Read my response to Nova.

You may be of the opinion that each part should play an equal role, but the system you created doesn't reflect that. Personally, I don't like the scoring on the last part. For the first two parts you can score a max of 410 points (110 and 300). This means that you need to survive with 90 hp left, so right off the bat half of the candidates are eliminated. You believe these will be close matches, so even fewer make it through. I don't disagree with a high failure rate, if the test is designed so the best score highest.

One problem I have is that the final test measures how much better you are than your opponent, not how much better you are than the candidate pool as a whole. It assumes that all of the players are of equal skill, a premise which I find laughable.

My second problem you acknowledged clearly. If your opponent is extremely weak you get a free ride to kage. Here's a hypothetical, Kono is an egotistical bastard. He applied for kage, but thought, "why bother practicing in game? I'm a god!" So he is popular enough and smart enough to make it through the first two rounds in a good position. He gets matched up with Leebz, who got every answer wrong on the second exam. Leebz takes a shit on Kono and makes it out with full HP. I would suggest that neither deserve to be kage, but under the current system Kono fails and Leebz passes. While this is going, on Mars and Remi are going to fight. They both did well on parts one and two, and each of them practiced and is in good fighting shape. It was a close match and Mars barely took it with 200 hp remaining. Neither become kage. So right now we have two people who might deserve kage, and two who don't. The only one who passes this test, as a whole, is someone who wouldn't meet my criteria for kage. I accept that this is outlandish, but this sort of situation is inevitable over many kage exams.

I have no stake in this, but I feel these are the general complaints coming from the community.

Quote from: Nova on August 05, 2016, 23:57:18

The only thing I could give against it being that people who scored incredibly poorly on the first & second test, are able to still get enough points by simply rekking their opponent (if the opponent did well at both first & second test but aren't doing as prominent in the third they would lose their chance even though they overall did better.)

Oh this is not a problem. It is for that reason that each player has to do well in every test. The sense of responsibility should prevail. We don't want the "Oh I should not be worried with this shit Theoretical test, I'll do better in the Practical test." Then you won over your opponent in Practical test but have insufficient points. You'll be reminded with the points you could have gathered had you done better in the previous test.

But that's what you have. You can get all 500 points you need to become kage from the practical test, making the other two irrelevant.

1. Name?(Username and Character Name): BDU Kirishima/Charlie
2. Chakra Nature: Fire
3. Position you're applying for? ( Dōshi? and if so which Dōshi) (Or Main member? and if so which Main Member): Dōshi of the Serpent
4. Why do you think you deserve that position?: I have many skills and intend to be an awesome person in game.
5. Nickname (If you have one):None
6. Do you promise to protect all other members?: Seems good
7. Swear to Minato that these answers are all true: I swear to Minato.

mostly mars... Fuck that guy

I'm just really shit at posting and stuff