War - limited death

[vipto]

That would work, but if the losing village has about 200 ninja bound inside it's village, surely that would cause lag/fps issues?
You can't expect everyone to have a supercomputer lol

Good point there, can't think of a solution around that except instances. And instances are what ruin an MMO

maybe there could be channels or realms that you are still in the same place but in a diferent channel/realm

[lollernoob9]

lol the buildings might be instanced. Tho not all wars will be offically declared. If they had a system like PWI's territory wars you would have to donate a lot of money to start the war, and choose who will participate. Tho because shinobi's very nature is deception and stealth, its hard to think of a way to identify ppl that will not defeat that purpose.

[Reminance]

That would work, but if the losing village has about 200 ninja bound inside it's village, surely that would cause lag/fps issues?
You can't expect everyone to have a supercomputer lol

Good point there, can't think of a solution around that except instances. And instances are what ruin an MMO

maybe there could be channels or realms that you are still in the same place but in a diferent channel/realm

realms like WoW.

[ZodiacPT]

realms = paying for more servers

[lollernoob9]

What will be gained from an SLO war? bragging rights? territory? money? An increase in missions?

  Though with this topic, there will be a problem if people can respawn and go back to the battlefield infinitly. No one will win unless people log off Not all fights will happen in permadeath zones either. Maybe capturing a hospital will prevent respawn for a while, tho this lends itself to trolling. Wars will likely be initiated by kage/head villagers when national tensions reach a certain point, but they will only end when all involved agree to stop the ( open ) hostility toward another village's shinobi. Coupled with the respawning of shinobi in non perma zones, this makes a declaration of war a heavy burden, because no one will feel like just letting it go anytime soon.

   If a battle happens in a non permadeath zone, I think players should respawn as normally. Perchance they cross into a permadeath zone, those who continue the fight do so knowing they might lose that character.

[NinjaMirage]

Maybe a resurrection of less than one month than one month then, but add extreme debuffs eg not being able to use your strongest specialisation (ninjutsu, taijutsu etc)

Maybe they are 'resurrected' but can't do anything towards the war effort? just so they can still play but stops an endless war

So they can still train and they can still do other missions, but cant attack or be attacked by people still in the war?

both of these i think would work best!! they can train in village but cant leave, but there should be a downside to dieing. 1 week is as long as your 3 days is as long as your character should be dead for. after that there limited to the village for the duration of the war.  There's no need to instance the war. once the village capacity is reached the war ends and the other village is declared the winner. however to make sure people dont keep there character offline to keep the village population down, if they dont log back on in 3 days you loose your character. 

[lollernoob9]

Idk. If something happens to your internet the exact day you would lose them....

[NinjaMirage]

no you misunderstand  3 days is as long as you can be dead for before losing your character- in a war you can spawn in the village after only a few min. once you do you your character is safe. if you have a long time character then dont wait to long to respawn.

[StrawHatSeyi]

Make it a week respawn and it's a good idea

[Fraudulent]

If a war between two villages came, so many people wouldn't find due to fear of losing their character.
In a war, I propose a rule of one death per month (you can rejoin the game one month after dying)

This would make lots of people participate in wars without losing all their hard work.

1 month respawn time seems a little ridiculous. I say 2-3 day max. I understand that it's important to intimidate ninjas before entering war, but this just seems too harsh. Besides, depending on the amount of dead shinobi during/after war, the game would become empty.

[json243]

2-3 days wouldn't be enough time, I would at least make it 2-3 Weeeeeeks. I mean honestly though, I think that it should be perms-death no matter what during a war. If somebody does not want to participate in a war for their village, then they would be branded as traitors as they should. I you swear an allegiance to your village, then you should fight for your village. So i honestly think if you die during a war, you die forever. just my opinion though.

[Fraudulent]

2-3 days wouldn't be enough time, I would at least make it 2-3 Weeeeeeks. I mean honestly though, I think that it should be perms-death no matter what during a war. If somebody does not want to participate in a war for their village, then they would be branded as traitors as they should. I you swear an allegiance to your village, then you should fight for your village. So i honestly think if you die during a war, you die forever. just my opinion though.

Say for example youre an unskilled fighter and play for fun, why would you have to deal with being branded a traitor if you choose the safer option? Thats unfair. 2-3 days max a week is long enough respawn time. I think everyone should be able to enjoy the game without living in fear of losing their character.

[SirTroll]

2-3 days wouldn't be enough time, I would at least make it 2-3 Weeeeeeks. I mean honestly though, I think that it should be perms-death no matter what during a war. If somebody does not want to participate in a war for their village, then they would be branded as traitors as they should. I you swear an allegiance to your village, then you should fight for your village. So i honestly think if you die during a war, you die forever. just my opinion though.

Are you going to try and tell me you wouldn't ragequit if you lost the character you've spent months training because your village threw you into a war you weren't prepared for?

Think about it - SLO won't do very well if you are forced to train to do anything good, and you just get killed by someone who has a KKG / chakra mix / more time to train than you, and if that's because your village forced you to you'll be even more resentful

[Vreg]

Here's the thing, in order to die, or rather for someone to be able to finish you off, you need to be in a death zone which is only around the borders between lands.

The way I see it, people will mostly avoid fighting something like a war in death zones in order to not risk actual character deaths. But at the same time we will also have those people that are fighting in death zones exactly to risk it all, however no one is obliged to.

Long story short, I think (the majority of) people won't be fighting wars in death zones. Basically, no one has to be in death zones, it is a place for those that want to be in it. This way we don't need to separate our community in different server types, but everyone can play together however they want. Death zones are also meant as a way for making our world more immersive by giving everyone the back thought of how actual death is possible in our world.

Think of death zones as a place for evil organizations to hold underground meetings in, for bad-ass strong self-secure shinobi to meet in, etc.

Did I mention that we planned to include safe passage between allied lands? That way you can avoid death 100% of the time, besides when you try to cross the borders of two enemy lands, which you shouldn't be doing in the first place (unless the Kage privately commands you to for an ultra secret infiltration mission).

[Fraudulent]

Here's the thing, in order to die, or rather for someone to be able to finish you off, you need to be in a death zone which is only around the borders between lands.

The way I see it, people will mostly avoid fighting something like a war in death zones in order to not risk actual character deaths. But at the same time we will also have those people that are fighting in death zones exactly to risk it all, however no one is obliged to.

Long story short, I think (the majority of) people won't be fighting wars in death zones. Basically, no one has to be in death zones, it is a place for those that want to be in it. This way we don't need to separate our community in different server types, but everyone can play together however they want. Death zones are also meant as a way for making our world more immersive by giving everyone the back thought of how actual death is a possible in our world.

Think of death zones as a place for evil organizations to hold underground meetings in, for bad-ass strong self-secure shinobi to meet in, etc.

Did I mention that we planned to include safe passage between allied lands? That way you can avoid death 100% of the time, besides when you try to cross the borders of two enemy lands, which you shouldn't be doing in the first place (unless the Kage privately commands you to for an ultra secret infiltration mission).

Well said. Having users be shamed for not risking their accounts in wars with permanent deaths is just stupid. This seems like a reasonable system.